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The uestion of the nature of God's foreknowledge and how that relates to human freedom has been pondered and debated by Christian theologians at least since the time of Augustine And the issue will not go away More recently the terms of the debate have shifted and the issue has taken on new urgency with the theological proposal known as the openness of God This view maintains that God's knowledge while perfect is limited regarding the future. This book covers some of the hot topics that arise from thinking about God s foreknowledge For instance does God know the future free actions of human agents If he does not does that mean he is not omniscient But what if it was logically inconsistent to claim that an indeterminate event could be known in advance for there is nothing that grounds the truth of said event over infallible foreknowledge or belief which is entailed by knowing some proposition p would seem to settle the matter thus removing any alternative possibilities to do otherwise and therefore falsify the knowledge which is impossible roughly if some proposition p is known then p is true thus if it is true that a subject S knows that p then p cannot be false S cannot be mistaken On this analysis someone could claim that God is omniscient but doesn t know the future free actions of human beings since it is impossible to know such things as they have no truth value But if God does foreknow the future free actions of human beings which is what the classical view of omniscience maintains does this somehow rule out freedom Well it may rule out libertarian freedom roughly the view that freedom is incompatible with determinism and we are indeed free this ualification is reuired since some believe that the two are incompatible and we are not free so they are not libertarians but a compatibilistic freedom is still in play roughly compatibilism is the view that there is a freedom that is compatible with the free act being determined in some way In response to this some object that compatibilist freedom is not enough to ground ascriptions of moral praise andor blame to a human agent Since the Bible clearly teaches we are morally responsible then we need to look elsewhere other than compatibilism But besides all of this is the uestion of how God knows the future especially the future free actions of some of his creation Does he know it because he planned it Does he know it because he is timelessly viewing everything at one like you would view an entire parade from a distance seeing the beginning middle and end all at the same time Does he know it because he knows all of the counterfactuals of human freedom and so what he human would freely do in any circumstance These are some of the issues broached in this book styled after the n views format where each author present their case and the other authors have a chance to respondIn this book there are four views hence the four in the title on divine foreknowledge There is the Open Theist view the view that God does not know the future free actions of libertarianly free human agents presented and defended by Greg Boyd There is the simple foreknowledge view God foreknows this removes alternative possibilities yet man has libertarian freedom presented and defended by Dave Hunt There is the middle knowledge view God foreknows all the counterfactuals of freedom ie what any given human would do in any given circumstance And there is the AugustinianCalvinist view God foreknows all the future free actions of human beings by consulting his decree presented and defended by Paul HelmHunt s is probably the most interesting since he is a minority I don t know what his ethnicity is I just mean he holds a minority position He holds that God foreknows future free actions that this removes alternative possibilities but we still have libertarian freedom He says since these things are so sure arguments that seek to undermine one or both of the Scriptural desiderata cannot be correct and we only need wait to spot the fallacy he likens it to Zeno s paradoxes about motion claiming we know motion is real and Achilles will overtake the tortoise so there has to be a problem with Zeno s argument even if we can t pin point it He therefore goes against the libertarian grain by denying PAP principle of alternative possibilities He also critiues all the major arguments that libertarians have used to try and show how foreknowledge and freedom are compatible So he is helpful in this respect for a Calvinist like myselfBoyd is also helpful since he critiues libertarian attempts to reconcile freedom and foreknowledge Many have claimed that Open Theism is the logical implication of Arminianism If Boyd s arguments are correct that is the case However I thought Boyd arguments were the weakest of the bunch William Lane Craig s essay was of course well done He defends Molinism This view claims to let us have our cake and eat it too Man is still libertarianly free and meticulous providence can be maintained since God instantiated the world where all the creatures freely did just what would bring about his plan He offers some critiues of the other views but I don t think they work Another problem is that I just don t see how his view isn t a form of determinism And of course the grounding objection was brought up Craig addressed one version of that objection in his essay but Hunt raised his hand and said um Well he said than that he said that there were better versions of the grounding objection like this one read the book no spoilers herePaul Helm presented and defended the position I hold to I thought he did a good job Good not great He makes a distinction between positive and negative governing to rebut the charges that God decreeing all that comes to pass makes him the author of sin I just wonder why people think a metaphor stands in for an argument he also does a good job pointing out that God s interaction with and ordering and governing of his creation is sui generous so it s not really fair to judge him by the yard stick of determinisms we know about ala physicalism behaviorism c He also argues that the biblical picture of man s plight is that man is in such a deplorable state that libertarianism just can t get the job done God must turn the sinner s heart toward himself and compatibilism best explains thisOverall this is a good book for those who want to jump head first into the fascinating topic of God s foreknowledge and how it works with people who are supposed to be free It s a bit dated but solid enough to whet your appetite for and send you to the next book or article with enough understanding that you ll be able to fend for yourself in deeper waters it even includes a glossary of key terms used in this discussion I don t think Boyd was the best representative for his side Perhaps a Hasker or a Rhoda would be better I don t think Helm used the best arguments for his side and against libertarianism Craig for all his sophistication ultimately didn t present a compelling case left too many unanswered uestions and dealt with a weak version of the main objection to Molinism Hunt was cool and I wonder why he just doesn t bite the bullet and affirm compatibilism Ultimately his appeal to Zeno s paradox as a good analogy for why he didn t need to show any reconciliation fell flat Helm pointed out that the analogy is terribly weak I don t know if you ll read this book but God does apologies to Boyd If God knows you will does this mean you ve been fated to read it That you can t do anything about it I guess you ll have to read the book to see how best you want to answer those uestions the-eternal-summer-library-edition been pondered and debated red-dead-redemption-2-the-complete-official-guide-collector-s-edition by Christian theologians at least since the time of Augustine And the issue will not go away More recently the terms of the debate have shifted and the issue has taken on new urgency with the theological proposal known as the openness of God This view maintains that God's knowledge while perfect is limited regarding the future. 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cannot the-tree-of-life-an-expose-of-physical-regenesis-on-the-three-fold-plane-of-bodily-chemical-and-spiritual-operation be false S cannot crash-c-oacute-mo-una-d-eacute-cada-de-crisis-financieras-ha-cambiado-el-mundo be mistaken On this analysis someone could claim that God is omniscient ulysses-unabridged-audiobook but doesn t know the future free actions of human the-purpose-driven-life-devotional-for-kids beings since it is impossible to know such things as they have no truth value But if God does foreknow the future free actions of human the-three-billy-goats-gruff-a-first-little-golden-book-english-and-norwegian-edition beings which is what the classical view of omniscience maintains does this somehow rule out freedom Well it may rule out libertarian freedom roughly the view that freedom is incompatible with determinism and we are indeed free this ualification is reuired since some everything-you-need-to-know-about-snakes believe that the two are incompatible and we are not free so they are not libertarians les-conqu-eacute-rants-de-l-inutile but a compatibilistic freedom is still in play roughly compatibilism is the view that there is a freedom that is compatible with the free act kissing-games-of-the-world being determined in some way In response to this some object that compatibilist freedom is not enough to ground ascriptions of moral praise andor Galre Football Club blame to a human agent Since the Bible clearly teaches we are morally responsible then we need to look elsewhere other than compatibilism But the-death-of-death-in-the-death-of-christ-a-treatise-in-which-the-whole-controversy-about-universal-redemption-is-fully-discussed besides all of this is the uestion of how God knows the future especially the future free actions of some of his creation Does he know it keto-diet-crock-pot-cookbook-2018-most-affordable-quick-amp-easy-slow-cooker-recipes-for-fast-amp-healthy-weight-loss-on-the-ketogenic-diet because he planned it Does he know it the-dukan-diet-2-steps-to-lose-the-weight-2-steps-to-keep-it-off-forever because he is timelessly viewing everything at one like you would view an entire parade from a distance seeing the crazy-love-overwhelmed-by-a-relentless-god beginning middle and end all at the same time Does he know it 150-more-group-therapy-activities-amp-tips-handouts-activities-worksheets because he knows all of the counterfactuals of human freedom and so what he human would freely do in any circumstance These are some of the issues suicide-notes-from-beautiful-girls broached in this brown-belt-sudoku-martial-arts-puzzles-series book styled after the n views format where each author present their case and the other authors have a chance to respondIn this magical-mermaids-shimmer-and-shine-step-into-reading book there are four views hence the four in the title on divine foreknowledge There is the Open Theist view the view that God does not know the future free actions of libertarianly free human agents presented and defended multipliers-how-the-best-leaders-make-everyone-smarter by Greg Boyd There is the simple foreknowledge view God foreknows this removes alternative possibilities yet man has libertarian freedom presented and defended washoku-recipes-from-the-japanese-home-kitchen by Dave Hunt There is the middle knowledge view God foreknows all the counterfactuals of freedom ie what any given human would do in any given circumstance And there is the AugustinianCalvinist view God foreknows all the future free actions of human 2017-lighthouse-calendar-12-x-12-wall-calendar-210-free-reminder-stickers beings les-cahiers-d-unreal-engine-tome-1-mod-eacute-lisation-blueprints-mat-eacute-riaux-et-paysages by consulting his decree presented and defended the-art-of-kula by Paul HelmHunt s is probably the most interesting since he is a minority I don t know what his ethnicity is I just mean he holds a minority position He holds that God foreknows future free actions that this removes alternative possibilities arthritis-proof-your-life-secrets-to-pain-free-living-without-drugs but we still have libertarian freedom He says since these things are so sure arguments that seek to undermine one or comptines-agrave-se-l-eacute-cher-les-babines both of the Scriptural desiderata cannot je-veux-pas-aller-agrave-l-eacute-cole be correct and we only need wait to spot the fallacy he likens it to Zeno s paradoxes about motion claiming we know motion is real and Achilles will overtake the tortoise so there has to real-baby-food-easy-all-natural-recipes-for-your-baby-and-toddler be a problem with Zeno s argument even if we can t pin point it He therefore goes against the libertarian grain the-manga-guide-to-physics-manga-guide-to by denying PAP principle of alternative possibilities He also critiues all the major arguments that libertarians have used to try and show how foreknowledge and freedom are compatible So he is helpful in this respect for a Calvinist like myselfBoyd is also helpful since he critiues libertarian attempts to reconcile freedom and foreknowledge Many have claimed that Open Theism is the logical implication of Arminianism If Boyd s arguments are correct that is the case However I thought Boyd arguments were the weakest of the phaedrus-penguin-classics bunch William Lane Craig s essay was of course well done He defends Molinism This view claims to let us have our cake and eat it too Man is still libertarianly free and meticulous providence can robust-java-exception-handling-testing-and-debugging be maintained since God instantiated the world where all the creatures freely did just what would dis-moi-comment bring about his plan He offers some critiues of the other views eat-meat-and-stop-jogging-common-advice-on-how-to-get-fit-is-keeping-you-fat-and-making-you-sick but I don t think they work Another problem is that I just don t see how his view isn t a form of determinism And of course the grounding objection was 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physicalism les-bacchantes behaviorism c He also argues that the Principles And Practices Of Banking biblical picture of man s plight is that man is in such a deplorable state that libertarianism just can t get the job done God must turn the sinner s heart toward himself and compatibilism mozza-at-home-more-than-150-crowd-pleasing-recipes-for-relaxed-family-style-entertaining best explains thisOverall this is a good the-invention-of-hugo-cabret book for those who want to jump head first into the fascinating topic of God s foreknowledge and how it works with people who are supposed to the-imp-of-the-mind-exploring-the-silent-epidemic-of-obsessive-bad-thoughts be free It s a king-lear-naxos-audiobooks bit dated steve-the-noob-3-an-unofficial-minecraft-book-minecraft-diary-steve-the-noob-collection but solid enough to whet your appetite for and send you to the next new-artistic-anatomy-female-morphology book or article with enough understanding that you ll a-treasury-of-curious-george be 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Ouver presents the Augustinian Calvinist view All four respond to each of the other essayists noting points of agreement and disagreement Editors James K Beilby and Paul R Eddy introduce the contemporary debate and also offer a conclusion that helps you evaluate the relative strengths and weaknesses of each view The result is a uniue opportunity to grapple with the issues and arguments and frame your own understanding of this important debat. This book is heavily philosophical and for that reason I think it is not as good as it could have been I prefer an exegetical account of dealing with divine foreknowledge free well sovereignty etchowever I do realize that philosophy enters the tangles of theology because it helps untangle tensions in the Bible Philosophy is important and all of us are philosophers even one s who supposedly hate it but it must remain in service to biblical authority rather then having biblical authority serve our own philosophy It is at that point when we speak from our own authority and not God s Mainly this book is philosophy so eat your heart our philosophersThe book takes four views of divine foreknowledge by four different authors and let s each author present their case and then reply to each case presented by the other authors The views are the open view of God simple knowledge middle knowledge and the Augustinian Calvinist positionHere are some uick uotesGregory Boyd open view Within the parameters settled by God there is an unsettled future a perhaps God determines whatever he sees fit and leaves as much of the future open as he sees fit p 19David Hunt simple foreknowledge In all honesty Mr Hunt to me feels like he is agnostic to coming to a conclusion on divine foreknowledge he just simply believes God knows the future and wants to be open to the other views He is the most irenic of the authorsWilliam Lane Craig middle knowledge For by knowing how persons would freely choose in whatever circumstances they might be in God can by decreeing to place just those persons in just those circumstances bring about his ultimate purposes through free creaturely decisions Thus by employing his counterfactual knowledge God can plan a world down to the last detail and yet do so without annihilating creaturely freedom since what people would freely do under various circumstances is already factored into the euation by God p 122Paul Helm Augustinian Calvinist a God who is essentially strongly omniscient positively governs all acts that occur except those which are evil and he negatively governs evil acts by knowingly and willingly permitting themGod may knowingly and willingly permit an evil act Indeed for an evil act to occur since God cannot perform an evil act he must have willingly permitted it to do so and if he is omniscient he must have knowingly and willingly permitted it p 178 179How is that on your brain josephine-a-life-of-the-empress book is heavily philosophical and for that reason I think it is not as good as it could have spare-parts-four-undocumented-teenagers-one-ugly-robot-and-the-battle-for-the-american-dream been I prefer an exegetical account of dealing with divine foreknowledge free well sovereignty etchowever I do realize that philosophy enters the tangles of theology liar-s-poker-rising-through-the-wreckage-on-wall-street because it helps untangle tensions in the Bible Philosophy is important and all of us are philosophers even one s who supposedly hate it character-is-destiny but it must remain in service to val-eacute-rian-tome-3-pays-sans-eacute-toiles-le biblical authority rather then having intermittent-fasting-for-women-the-practical-essentials-for-achieving-lasting-weight-loss-and-health-results-with-intermittent-fasting biblical authority serve our own philosophy It is at that point when we speak from our own authority and not God s Mainly this introducing-statistics-a-graphic-guide-introducing-eileen-magnello-borin-van-loon-amazon-com book is philosophy so eat your heart our philosophersThe calendario-rom-aacute-nico-2019-mesa book takes four views of divine foreknowledge terror-on-the-titanic-choose-your-own-adventure-24 by four different authors and let s each author present their case and then reply to each case presented elon-musk-tesla-paypal-spacex-l-entrepreneur-qui-va-changer-le-monde-edition-enrichie by the other authors The views are the open view of God simple knowledge middle knowledge and the Augustinian Calvinist positionHere are some uick uotesGregory Boyd open view Within the parameters settled destinations-of-a-lifetime-225-of-the-world-s-most-amazing-places by God there is an unsettled future a perhaps God determines whatever he sees fit and leaves as much of the future open as he sees fit p 19David Hunt simple foreknowledge In all honesty Mr Hunt to me feels like he is agnostic to coming to a conclusion on divine foreknowledge he just simply ba-bauhaus believes God knows the future and wants to 2018-2019-daily-planner-get-shit-done-18-month-planner-july-2018-ndash-december-2019-8-rdquo-x10-rdquo be open to the other views He is the most irenic of the authorsWilliam Lane Craig middle knowledge For la-franc-ma-ccedil-onnerie by knowing how persons would freely choose in whatever circumstances they might didn-t-see-it-coming be in God can mighty-mighty-construction-site by decreeing to place just those persons in just those circumstances best-of-the-best-from-hawaii-cookbook-selected-recipes-from-hawaii-s-favorite-cookbooks-best-of-the-best-state-cookbook-series bring about his ultimate purposes through free creaturely decisions Thus the-power-of-broke-how-empty-pockets-a-tight-budget-and-a-hunger-for-success-can-become-your-greatest-competitive-advantage by employing his counterfactual knowledge God can plan a world down to the last detail and yet do so without annihilating creaturely freedom since what people would freely do under various circumstances is already factored into the euation she-made-a-monster-how-mary-shelley-created-frankenstein by God p 122Paul Helm Augustinian Calvinist a God who is essentially strongly omniscient positively governs all acts that occur except those which are evil and he negatively governs evil acts the-natural-soap-making-book-for-beginners-do-it-yourself-soaps-using-all-natural-herbs-spices-and-essential-oils-english-edition by knowingly and willingly permitting themGod may knowingly and willingly permit an evil act Indeed for an evil act to occur since God cannot perform an evil act he must have willingly permitted it to do so and if he is omniscient he must have knowingly and willingly permitted it p 178 179How is that on your Alchemical Studies Collected Works 13 brain

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Inasmuch as the future is open and not settledDivine Foreknowledge Four Views provides a venue for well known proponents of four distinct views of divine foreknowledge to present their cases Gregory A Boyd of Bethel College presents the open theism view David Hunt of Whittier College weighs in on the simple foreknowledge view William Lane Craig of Talbot School of Theology takes the middle knowledge view and Paul Helm of Regent College Vanc. A good summary of several views on foreknowledge but a bit too technically philosophical for my tastes I recommend Predestination and Free Will Four Views on my book list instead


10 thoughts on “Divine Foreknowledge 4 Views

  1. says:

    What a perfect way to explore the uestion of God's omniscience As a volume in the Spectrum Multiview Books Series the book features four theologians each defending a different view of God's omniscience the Open Theism view the Simp

  2. says:

    This book covers some of the hot topics that arise from thinking about God's foreknowledge For instance does God know the future free actions of human agents? If he does not does that mean he is not omniscient? But what if it was l

  3. says:

    uite easily the most widely accessible philosophically competent book on divine foreknowledge it is difficult to find a engaging dialogical wor

  4. says:

    This book does a good job of laying out the differences between prominent views on divine foreknowledge I found some of the explanations to be philosophical and complicated than I would like but it is a difficult concept I would have liked to see biblical exposition rather than if then type arguments Nice format though with four authors and

  5. says:

    A good summary of several views on foreknowledge but a bit too technically philosophical for my tastes I recommend Predestination and Free Will Four Views on my book list instead

  6. says:

    I love this series This volume from 2001 partially revisits the 1986 volume on predestination and free will and

  7. says:

    This is a philosophically heavy intro into a uestion which dominated the evangelical world for a while not sure what the current fundie firestorm is I was disappointed by Hunt's piece on Simple Foreknowledge my own position but impressed by his stressing that all four views do not imperil anyone's salvation or faith I have found Greg Boyd's work to be extremely helpful even if sometimes off target a bit and

  8. says:

    Wonderful book that tackles the philosophical theological and some biblical issues surrounding God's foreknowledge from four different perspectives I recommend the work to anyone who struggles with this contentious debate

  9. says:

    This book is heavily philosophical and for that reason I think it is not as good as it could have been I prefer an exegetical account of dealing with divine foreknowledge free well sovereignty etchowever I do real

  10. says:

    Solid effort looking at God's knowledge of the future Found myself wishing it was theological and biblical less philosophical and theoretical Greg Boyd represents the open theism view Thankfully I think this view h

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